Georgia, Armenia, and Azerbaijan in Asia or Europe?
Tuesday June 6, 2006
I was asked today why I list Georgia, Armenia, and Azerbaijan as Asian countries while some other websites list them as European countries. My answer was as follows... "There’s no official definition of the boundary between Asia and Europe (nor between any continent for that matter) so the boundaries are merely traditional. The Caucasus Mountains have traditionally divided the two continents and these three countries are to the south of that boundary. I also feel that it is more appropriate to place these countries in Asia because all of Turkey east of Istanbul is customarily considered Asia and certainly their neighbor to the south, Iran, is an Asian country." What do you think? Click "comments" below!
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Well, actually Europe does extend eastward farther than Turkey — the eastern border of Europe is the Urals mountains. And yes, the Southern border is in Caucasus. However, Azerbaijan, Georgia, and Armenia do fall below Caucasus. A big part of the Caucasus mountains actually overlaps the territories of these countries. So it is not quite correct to put them in Asia, although certain parts of these countries do fall in Asia. Why can’t we just say that these countries are both in Asia and Europe, which would be the factually correct thing to say (see CIA Factbook, etc.)?
Consider it culturally. The only people who think Azerbaijan is European have been to Azerbaijan — or Europe.
Turkey does not belong in Europe until it acknowledges the Armenian Genocide. The USA does not belong in Europe since it’s CIA WEBSITE fails to mention the Armenian genocide. Imagine the history of the Jews without mentioning anti-semitism or the Holocaust!
As you said there is no clear geografical definition,These 3 countries are considered European because of their religion(Armenia & Georgia)culture,and their sociopolitical situation,they are members of the council of Europe,they have intentions to join NATO and EU in the future(far future)which their asian neighbours lack…
Yes, in recent history Armenia, Georgia and Azerbaijan have been included in Europe. I think the Arax river can be the southern border between Europe and Asia.
Israel imagines itself as part of Europe and wants to join the EU.
As much as I know there is a north south dividing line between asia and europe. It is extending down along Uralyan mountains in russia to northern tip of Caspian and down along western edge of Caspian sea. Thus, Armenia, Georgia and Azerbaijan fall into europe.
I am Armenian (hye). Armenians are Asians not Europeans. Armenia is completely below the Caucus mountain range. Therefore, it is in Asia. It is quite correct to put Armenia in Asia. Naxcivan, a piece of Azerbaijan is also in Asia. I am Armenian, I am Asian and I am not European! Amenian has been building more ties with its Asian neighbors in Iran and some arab countries much more than European ones (I can only think of France.)
ALthough territorially Armenia, Azerbaijan and Georgia fall into Asia, the culture and life style of countries, especially in Armenia and Gerogia is more European thus this region should be considered as Europe.
Most geographers also list the Ural Mountains as a dividing line between Europe and Asia. Eventually this subcontinent, Europe, may be lumped with Asia as Eurasia.
Georia and Armenia border Turkey on it’s Eastern/Asian side, Azerbaijan is even more East. What’s the problem with considering these countries Asian countries then, geographically? Cultural ties are not the matter in this destinction at all. Sometimes there seems to be an underlying notion of considering the European culture (whatever that is) superior to the Asian culture (whatever that is) and thus want these states to belog to Europe. That’s incorrect in many ways.
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Australia is not a European country just because the people there speak a handsome English accent
Every geographer in Europa know and learn the others in the school:geographical border between Europa and Asia are: Ural mountains, river Ural, north coast of Caspian Sea(small part), valley of rivers Kuma and Manic and then to Azov, Kerc and Black Sea. Europa includes only small part of Turkey on the north side of Bospor and Dardaneli (area of 19 127 km2)
I seem to recall the region being called Asia Minor. It draws its cultural influences from both Europe and Asia.
It dosn’t matter because its obvious that Europe and Asia are both part of one continent of Eurasia. Anybody who tries to argue against this is illogical as a continent is a massive landmass surrounded by water. This means that North America, South America, Australia, Africa, Antarctica, Australia and Eurasia are the seven continents of the world. dosn’t that answer everything?
The boundaries between Europe and Asia are formed by the highest peaks of the Ural and of the Kaukasian Mountains, and by the Black Sea, Bosporus, Marmora Sea, Bosporus and Egeian Sea (I hope I spell these names as you do, so you may understand what I mean
) This is how we learn it in Belgium.
Marie Alice, Belgian geographer
(Europe!)
I think culture makes the distinction.However,with massive migration of East and Mideast(Arabs)to the West,and the slowness or resistance to assimilate,who knows? The future may be one mix everything-maybe we are all destined to be one society,many languages and socialism for all.I hope I’m wrong.
I don’t concider Armenia, Azerbaijan, or Georgia a part of either Europe or Asia. They are Middle-Eastern in geography and culture. The Eurasian landmass is a general/simple discription, but not an accurate one as I see it. Any nation in the region, including those with the suffex “-stan”, which is arabic for “Land of”, should be, by definition, labeled Middle-Eastern. Not Eurasian, or European, or Asian. Granted Turkey may own a small piece of Europe but that doesn’t mean it’s part of Europe. It just means they have control over the Bosperus and the Dardenelles; strategic inlets to the Black Sea which is, insidentally, what makes Turkey so important to Europe in general.
Difficult to consider them Europeans. But, at the very end Europeans are etnically Caucausians, and those countries are certainly Caucasians. So, if they are not European, why European people are Caucasians.
Why better ask Noah!!!
I agree with your opinion.Also i believe that Turkey belongs in Asia , like Cyprus.
I have always understood that the Ural mountain divides Europe from Aisa and the Caucasus Mountains south and the Black Sea south. These are the facts without the emotions. It matters not where one prefers to be called, these are the division lines.
I see that Marz said it first so I’ll simply agree with what he said (except for his counting Australia twice.) There’s no point in solving a matter when the underlying premise was wrong in the first place (and has been for ages.)
There is no question Armenia is a European. To the jokers who claim Armenia is Asian it is just a stunt. Armenia’s religion is Christian, its people are white, its culture is definitively European, it is a democratic country where an individual (men, women, and children) has self worth. Unlike the neighboring countries that have no concept of this but are desperately trying to become members of the EU for political & monetary gain. Armenia is part of the Council of Europe and one day will become part of the EU because it truly is EUROPEAN!
Well I think Armenia is a part of the Eastern Europe branch or Indo-Europe family. Russians are not compeletly Europeans, but they are lighter than people in Europe, the same with Armenians & Armenian’s enthnicity is White/Caucasians & so are all of Europeans, so this shows that they belong into the European family. They look nothing like the Middle Eastern people & nothing like Asian people & their cultures are COMPLETELY different & also their language is a part of the Indo-european branch, so how can you make Armenia either from Middle East or Asia.
http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/eu.htm
try visiting this site the World Atlas it considers Armenia a part of Europe not even Eurasia. Problem solved!!!
All three countries are in Asia, and the Christianity of Georgia and Armenia do not alter their geography. There are millions of Christians in the Arab world, and that does not place Syria or Lebanon in Europe. It simply reflrects the fact that Christianity originated in Asia. The much favored solution is adoption of Eurasia as a standard continent.
If we are to define the location (continent) of a country by culture we would certainly have more than seven. Realize that Israel, India, Mongolia and a good part of Russia are in Asia. Where is the common culture in that? I also agree that to make Eurasia into two continents doesn’t make nuch sense.
the issue above is not cultural and has nothing to do with the people who live on it. otherwise, one could make arguments that the united states is european because a vast majority of its people are of european ancestry.
rather the issue is geographic. Does europe’s continental boundary extend as far down as the araxes river?
If one answers yes, they must explain why. Why does europe extend up to the araxes river, and not further south to incorporate lake van and lake urmiah, both freshwater lakes that are part of the armenian plateau?
If one answers no, they must explain why the continent of europe’s lines are demarcated at the northern tip of the caucasus mountain range, north of georgia or europe?
Same form of logical argument should apply to anywhere in between.
Personally, it seems the line demarcation between: where europe ends and asia begins is arbitrary and capricious. the bosphorous demarcating the european and asian parts of turkey is a matter of convenience as a body of water separates these areas, whereas no body water does so at the caucasian continental level.
my question ultimately is what are the plate tectonics on this region?
Theo, the problem with tectonic plates is that there is a single Eurasian plate that connects the region from the mid-Atlantic to Japan. So, perhaps we only have one continent in the region – Eurasia.
Matt, you are probably right.
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I grew up in Georgia and, unlike some people on this forum that may not even know where the country is, i’ve never heard that Georgia is in Asia. The border is located in Turkey and since Georgia is north of Turkey it should be condsidered Europe. Same Applies to Armenia since both Georgia and Armenia are North of Turkey. Everything East of Turkey is asia including the muslim country of Azerbaidjen.
Alex and Steve Conrad…stop showing your ignorance…you probably have never left your zipcode. What does India, Mongolia, and Lebanon have to do with Georgia or Armenia. Have you been to either Asia or Europe? Georgia has always been Europe.
I’m acually Armenian, and i think that the border with these three countries in it is Eurasia, because i heard that theres no official border that marks this area. And one of my teachers told me it was Eurasia, which means in between Europe, and Asia.
Armenians and Georgians are similiar to the ancient inhabitants of Asia Minor, like the Assyrians. While their states are certainly closer to Europe than most other Asian countries, they still remain purely Asian. As for Azerbaijan, it doesn’t have any ties to Europe whatsoever.
Until the emergence of the EU as sort of a monopolist on European identity, Armenia, Georgia, Turkey and Azerbaijan have always been listed in various atlases as Asian countries. It is understandable that the Georgians and especially Armenians want to distance themselves from their hated neighbours, but they should understand that being Asian doesn’t necessarily mean being uncivilized – take a look at Japan or Korea, for instance.
Aaargh!..I’m trying to do this project on all the asian countries and is armenia and georgia really in europe like half the sites say in google?…i mean really , i would consider it more asian.Even though it does have christians it’s more attached to the asian countris around.And anyway i kinda HAVE to finish this project fast and i’m right now just wasting my time blabbing away.:D!.Still , maybe i’ll just add it in asia and if anyone thinks it’s not in asia , try and stop me.:P:P!!..oh and FAST!
Something is missing in all these analysis.
Yes today’s Armenia may be geographically european given the criteria of the Caucasus mountains
But its culture has been developping for 3 millenia in a bigger region, englobing today’s Armenia, East of Turkey, North of Syria, North of Iran and West of Azerbaidjan.
What I am saying is that today’s Armenia culture is the consequence of the cultural developpement of successive Armenian states that were localised in a more large geographical area (North Iran, North Syria, Armenia, East of Turkey, West of Azerbaidjan), and some of these places are within Asia. So Armenian national indentity and culture also developped within Asia.
hi i am from Armenia and i think it belongs to Asia. i think most people think it belongs to europe because it used to be in the soviet union and it is near the west of russia so people think it belongs in europe. i also think that it should be in the middle east because its culture is closest to iran
Hi ,im from Armenia , I think Armenia and Georgia are part of Europe , because of Religion and social-political ties with rest of the European countries as well as cultures and ways , Azerbajan and Turkey should be considered Asians ….
to call Turkey asia minor is part of 18th century world views ,Armenia,Georgia,Azerbajain,Iran
parts of Pakistan,India,Afghanistan and even China, carry the DNA markers of the people that populated Europe, they are non-semitic, call them caucasian? aryan? etc, same DNA, their religions are a bit different mostly Muslim and that is not a Asian Religion or for that matter neither is Hebrew, Asia in My humble opinion would be from the afghan and Indian estern frontiers and would incle Burma,Thailand Singapore,Malaia,Japan,Chinas, and parts of Russia so trhere are asiatic DNA peoples west of the Indian estern border and there are European? DNA inside China and Japan proper(The AINU)
I consider Georgia Armenia and Azerbaijan as a part of Europe although Azerbaijani culture are more Asian. Their language is Turkic which was derived from Mongolian which is obviously Asian. It depends on cultural vs geographical location. Culturally Georgia and Armenia is European or semi-European. Armenian language is Indo-European and recent studies has placed it into a Greko-Armeno-Arian language group which connects Armenian and Greek. Although Georgian is not a Indo-European language, it’s culture and people are definitely European.
Since the water divider of the Caucasian mountains leaves a small part of Azerbaijan and Georgia technically in Europe, these countries should be considered European countries. Since a part of Turkey is also in Europe, it is also a European country. For the benefit of clarity, Armenia being situated between Azerbaijan and Georgia, it too should be considred a European country. However, this does not take away the fact that all of these countries are also – technically as well as for several other reasons – Asian, they can also be considered to be Asian countries. Just as Russia and Kazakhstan are also both European and Asian in nature and by geography.
armenia and georgia are definitely in europe. turkey is not. turks and azeris are from ancient mesopatemia. they gained land by moving north. armenia had an empire all through out the middle east like greece but were both ethnic europeans.
Armenia, Georgia and Azerbaijan are at crossroads where Europe meets Asia.
If we consider Caucasian mountains as the actual border, then only small part of Georgia and small part of Azerbaijan will be in europe, rest of the land will be in Asia.
If we in fact move the border by Araz / Arax river, then borders with turkey and Iran will be European-Asian borders.
Region of Caucasus is in between and therefore can be considered both European and Asian.
If considering Georgia and Armenia in europe like some writers did, then Azerbaijan must be in Europe as well as it lies on the same vicinity.
Those three countries are truly EuroAsian as part of its territory lies in each continent. The only other country that comes to my mind is turkey which has 3% in Europe and rest in Asia.
Well… First of all, the biggest mistake we are making is to consider Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan as members of one and the same group because with their traditions and even religion they are totally different from each other. From those three countries, Georgia is the most European whereas Azerbaijan is strictly asiatic. Armenia stands somewhere in the midle but still… Most geographers would take Ural Mountain as a border between Asia and Europe but in most cases they would include these three nations in Europe. I have personally visited all three countries and would say that Georgia really belongs to Europe with its oldest wine, christian church, dances & songs and overall culture. But I am not that sure abour Azerbaijan and Armenia. I think these two should be forming Eurasia together.
hi i’m from armenia, and i think armenia and georgia should be considered as a europen contrey because in old maps it would be show’n in europe and because of are religions and culture.Also azerbaijan and turkey should be considered as asians.
I defiantly agree what Gregory says!!!
From those three countries GEORGIA is the most european! It’s long history culture and traditions prove that it’s completely European!!! Moreover, as archeological excavations discovered the most ancient human skull out of Africa was founded in Georgia!!!
So it’s coming up that Europeans come from Georgia and it truely deserves to be part of Europe!
Armenia is semi european, but Azerbaijan is completly asian! even culture, traditions, life style and stuff are so much asian!!!!
Georgia doesn’t have any similarity with Azerbaijan or Armenia! For me Georgia looks like Ukraine, Moldova and other European Countries!!! BTW Georgia is kinda more developed than Moldova, Belarus and etc. As ethnography proves real Georgian man is white with bright hair and green eyes which is completly European!
armenia is in europe NOT ASIA! armenians are white and a lot have blonde hair, blue and green eyes. that is something georgians do not have. georgia should have the land below because they and azerbaijan are asian. armenia is located on the european border. the entire country is on the caucasian mountains. azerbaijan are just nomadic turks. georgians are asian. armenians are white european. THEY speak a european language
Armenia, azerbaijan and georgia are european culturally, politically and geographically. It is important not to make comparisons of europe of today as it’s cultures are dying along with others around the world.
The southern caucasus have never been assimilated by middle eastern culture and if anything the mountainous nature of that area’s geography make it isolated both to europe and asia culturally. Also, the north is more muslim and less christian than south of the mountains. In relation to this many stupid geographers assign the north to europe alone.
Turkey is also a European nation as it has been strongly involved and orientated to the north over the centuries. It is important to note that Turkey and Azerbaijan preach a secular Islam as opposed to other muslim nations.
The caucasus were initially part of Byzantium,and later Ottoman and Russian empires throughout the modern era.
From a strictly geographical standpoint, this map shows how the Caucasus/Urals cut across countries: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:TransAsia.PNG
What’s the big deal? The major part of Russia is in Asia, yet it is considered a European country. Part of Kazakhstan is in Europe, yet it is clearly an Asian country. There obviously is no correct answer other than by definition. And then it becomes “whose definition.”
i guess its in ASIA or its Eurasia like Russia
Emil hit the nail on the head. There is always going to be a debate about these countries because there is no definition to the border of a continent. However, to be fair, the countires should be defined geographically, NOT culturally. After all, kenya and egypt have very differnt cultures just like iraq and japan do. Countries can share a continent without sharing much culture.
I would look at a map and say asia by logic…
We can’t use culture for defining border of continetns. Because there is no a single and unique culture all around the Europe or Asia or any other continent. So, is it practical to define border of a continent based on culture?
It is not logic to define continents by language of its inhabitants. Because Farsi is an Indo-european language, but there is no Farsi-speaking country in Europe.
Geography can define continents better. But during this definition we should give political or ethic factors away. Geographically, how we can consider Azerbaijan as an Asian country while considering Armenia, a small island within Azerbaijan, as an European one?! I mean both of them should be either Asian or European.
Undoubtedly Armenia is an Asian country. Armenians have nothing to do with Europe. If people insist that Armenia belong to Europe because armenians are christians as most europeans, is the same to say that Muslim Bosnia or Kosovo belong to Asia. If some people deny that Armenia belong to Asia, they are also denying the historical, geographical and traditional patrimony of Armenia. Asia is the best continent for me!!!!Armenians must be proud to be ASIANS!!!!!
Who sed whear is europe and asia border? your thicher of geography ? scientists? all this is BS. Caucasians are Caucasians and this is a croas road europe-asia and one of oldest cultural centr in the world. Europeans –are you caucasians or not??? OR You came from africa???
Sorry Hadji. We Armenians take pride in being Europeans and white. We are not Asians! screw that.
Dear Busse,
Being white or black has nothing to do with the pertenence to any continent. Being European is not being superior to any other race from other continents as many Europeans feel. So why Armenians, Georgians, Turks and also Azeris insist being Europeans? They are denying their historical, cultural and also natural heritages. The geographical evidence is unquestionable: every territory laying below the Caucasus Mountains, is Asia. There´s nothing else to add.
What differentiates European culture from all other continents and culture is it’s deep roots in Christianity. What united Europe and gave it a common identity was not language or race but common beliefs in Christianity.
Armenia and Georgia share with the other European countries this identity. Turkey and Azerbaijan have different identity which relates to Islam rather than Christianity. Therefore in that sense they do not share with Europe common beliefs.
wow this is a very intelligable and heavy debate, I would say that Armenia Georgia and Azerbijan are on the European continent since all three lay above the River Arax and are situated north of Iran and Turkey. As for Turkey I believe although an historically Asian descent, they have culturally assimulated with may Euro/Races, and also the fact that part of Turkey lies in Europe I would say Turkey should be considered European as for the nation of Kazahkstan it can be considered both in Europe and Asia, even her population is either Slavic (European) and Turkic (Asian).
wow, this debate lasts almost for 2 years! so people… i dont know about azerbajan for sure, but i strongly convinced that Armenia and Georgia are part of Europe, it’s 100%… just forget about Asia. we studied it in school, also you can find it in wikipedia or another sources. Concerning the race, it’s also trully european, their appearance, culture and religion. Also Georgia and Armenia are two of the oldest christian countries. Thus, you can compare this two countries with Greece for example..
The border of Europe and Asia is located on the main ridge of great Caucasus mountains and lies through Georgia. Approximately 1/6 of Georgia is located in north Caucasus (provinces of khevi, khevsureti and tusheti) while the rest is located in south Caucasus. So, Georgia is the country at the junction of Europe and Asia. This is the border of Europe and Asia at least since 1700 (one can see maps of French cartographer deFer and others) Armenia and Azerbaijan are located in Asia.
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Are u saying that if USA mentioned “armenian henocide”, they would belong to Europe???
The borders of South East Europe are not very well defined. Borders tend to retract or expand with time, just like after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, Europe expanded toward the East. When the borders are within the limits of Europe and there is controversy, it is not fair to judge just by one criteria being an expanding border, other specs like history and culture should be analyzed. Just like for Cyprus, that is geographically in Asia for years but part of European union now.
All 3 countries, Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan are part of the council of Europe.
All 3 countries are politically part of the internet site of the gate way of European union,
All 3 countries are part of the miss Europe contest, Eurovision contest and European football league as well as seen by world atlas geographers as part of Europe.
Now Armenia and Georgia could be considered more European than Azerbaijan because of their culture, both being Christian states, and Armenians being very similar to Greeks by culture and may be originally colonists from the Balkans, usually lighter people and speak a European language similar to the Greeks. Historically, they were Hellenic at one point and then Roman and then under byzantine kingdom and then ottoman and then became soviet republics. Recently, Politically, Armenia even sent troops to Kosovo under Greek command(KFOR)and Georgia is trying desperately to become a member state of the European union in long term and distance itself from Russia. The other two counties could follow in long term, 10 or 15 years…
Now it does not mean that Azerbaijan is semi-European or whatsoever, the Caspian area is rich of resources and could also be from the east side the border of Europe and Asia.
I think the Arax river from the south could be the separation between Europe and Asia and all 3 countries should be listed simply as European, again just like this most official European web site at europa.eu
I’m not saying being White or European makes you superior, I’m just saying that white people came from Europe, and Georgians and Armenians are white. Their culture is also European. Azerbaijan is also in Europe though it’s culture and people are not really European.
What has the Eurovision Song Contest or the EU have to do with whether a country is in Europe or not?
Cyprus is in the EU – but it’s in Asia. Israel takes part in Eurovision – and it’s also in Asia
Gio I hope you one day stumble back upon this entry as I once did while googling my name. I’m glad I stumbled upon this as you missed my point entirely.
First, you ask me to “Stop Showing my ignorance” and then make a comment that I have never left my ZIPCODE. I ask you sir, not to be ignorant and United States-centric in assuming everyone follows the US Zipcode standard.
On the zipcode issue, at the time of my post: I had left my place of adress(Canadian Postal Code if your interested)and travelled outside the country, and was currently gearing up for a family move to europe.
Since 2006 in back and forth between university(In Ottawa where im from) and “home” in europe(Where my family was posted militarily) I have been to many countries in Europe.
After all this traveling about my opinion espoused in 2006 is unchanged.
You asked me “what India, Mongolia, and Lebanon have to do with Georgia or Armenia” I’m going to assume Lebanon was reffering to alex, as I did not mention Lebanon in my post at all. As for India and Mongolia, which I did state; Their relevance has to do with the fact that you Cannot define/group together countries in a Continent based solely on culture, as the countries I mentioned all belong traditionally/according to most opinions to the continent of asia; however their cultures are distinctly different.
You ASSUMED I was from America by stating I had not left my Zipcode, you ASSUMED I believed that Georgia and/or Armenia are in Asia, when in fact I made no such statement or suggestion
in my post, all these ASSUMPTIONS led to one EPIC fail of an argument against me, based on what I believe is your largest assumption about my post; That it was a reply to the Original Poster(OP). It was not, it had nothing to do with the OP, my post was reffering only to specific people who had commented after the OP espousing the ideas I talked about. As such, your argument against me is irrelevant on the grounds that you where attacking an argument I never made, and to add insult to injury is further irrelevant because I believe that both Armenia AND Georgia belong to the continent known as “Europe”
Im sorry to have Cut you so hard in my response, but that was quite possibly the worst argument against me based around untrue assumptions, so I did it for your own benefit, so you learn to argue/debate better in the future.
Obviosly they are all in asia and they can be considered as an extention to asia minor
Blumenbach based the classification of the Caucasian race primarily on skull features, which Blumenbach claimed were optimized by the Caucasian peoples,[9] particularly a single skull from the Caucasia which resembled German skulls. It was from this similarity that he conjectured Europeans having arisen in the Caucasia. Blumenbach wrote about the “primeval” Caucasian race which he believed was “the oldest race of man” and the “first variety of humankind”.
Caucasian variety – I have taken the name of this variety from Mount Caucasus, both because its neighborhood, and especially its southern slope, produces the most beautiful race of men, I mean the Georgian; and because all physiological reasons converge to this, that in that region, if anywhere, it seems we ought with the greatest probability to place the autochthones (birth place) of mankind
I personally belive Azerbaijan, Georgia, Armenia and part of Russia should simply be named “Caucasus” because trying to fit them into either Europe or Asia-Middle East faces a lot of difficulties and confusion in terms of cultural, linguistic and geographic pecularities. I belive Caucasus is a part of dividing line between Europe and Asia. If we can view Europe and Asia as distinct geographies, then why should not think of Azerbaijan, Armenia, and Georgia as Caucasus.
As to blue eyed, blonde haired Armenians or Georgians, and Asian Azerbaijan, it is so pathetic to hear people from Caucasus trying to distance themselves from each other. Azerbaijanis are mostly product of Caucasian Albanians and Medians. However, Turkish invasions and Islamic Expansion imposed Turkish language and Islam on them. You come across people with both European and Midlle-Eastern features in all of these republics which does not make them either European nor Asians
I think that the National Geographic Society recognizes these countries as asian, and logically, since Turkey east of the Bosporus is considered part of Asia, Azerbaijan, Armenia and Georgia should be as well.
Georgia is in Europe and Azerbaijan is in both Europe and Asia and Armenia is in Asia.
There are several definitions of the word continent, some include the ethnicity of the people. Georgians claim a closer ethnicity to western europe than to ethnic asian people. If the decision was left to the Georgians, they would be European, not Asian.
What exactly do culture, ethnicity, language have to do with geographic features? Native Americans were basically Asian – does this make North and South Americal part of Asia? Some areas of the US are predominantly “African American” — are those places part of Africa? Did Australia become part of Europe once Aborigines were decimated?
To my knowledge, the definition of Asia is a geographic one: that part of Eurasia which is East of the Urals and South of the Caucasus mountains (throw in the Caspian sea as part of the dividing line). These three countries are essentially South of the Caucasus range, except perhaps a tiny bit of Northern Georgia. That’s Asia, despite the recent statements of the US ambassador to the UN, spoken in the context of the current Russian-Georgian conflagration.
I think Armenia and Georgia are in europe they have culture, religion, etc. is europian but Azerbaijan culture oh sorry
) turkish culture cuz azerbaijan is LieRepublic they havnt their own culture so turkish culture is asian —> azerbaiajan is asian country
Nubian Christians in the Sudan are much older then the first christians of europe. So to identify Christianity with Europe is completely wrong. There has been a black population in that are since forever. Also, to go back to “European”(Europa was a African princess, daughter of Cadmus)culture in ancient times and compare to our time is crazy because as all the white people know on this forum, the white people were completely massacring each other.
I am Georgian, and it looks like everyone else here is ignorant of what Georgia is or its culture is about. Georgian culture and language is distinctly ASIAN. Just because it was occupied by Russia does not make it a part of Europe. Go learn about a country before you make stupid assumptions about it.
I can say that a “potential” answer might emerge if we put all the comments “side by side”. There are mentioned the cultural, religious, geographical (…) differences and I consider each one is right in her/his own way. Think about it. In reality Europe, Asia and Africa are as well as North and South America a single land mass.(if we don’t take count of the man made Panama and Suez channels). We divided this land masses into continents mainly because of this aspects you all mention and perhaps the existence of the tectonic plates as well. Even in this case, Europe and Asia are one single entity, right?
My opinion is that when it comes to dividing land masses there are another 3 important factors: the political, economical and the social factor (which counts more or less, depending on the situation). To me the political and economic factors are more important than the “natural” one. See the example of the Russian Federation. It is considered an European country all though a great part of it’s territory can be found on the Asian continent.
Nowadays Europe identified itself with the European Union, but not in a perfect total way. “United in diversity” that’s the Union’s motto. In the next years (many of few) other states from the eastern and mediteranean part of Europe will join the Union but the process will not end at this point. There are some (official)talks about expanding the borders of the Union beyond the continent’s natural limits.
My assumption is that in the future (the next decades or more) Europe will be exactly one and the same with “European Union”. Maybe states like Norway or Iceland will join the Union as well. And yes, it is possible that in that future Georgia, Armenia, Turkey, Israel and some of the northern African states to be included.
Mean while Turkey belongs to Asia Minor therefor it is part of Asia and Armenia, Azerbaijan and Georgia… well, I agree with Matt. To sustain this argument I bring up into discussion the European educational system. The European pupils and students learn about a Europe in which all these 4 states are considered a part of Asia.
But who knows what the future will bring…
“Europeans are ethnically Caucasians”
I am sure some brilliant mind coined this term in American bureaucratic lore, and got a promotion, but I know that it was not there even as recent as 1995, and then until some time later.
Before then there was term “white” and “minority”.
I am not sure who wants me to believe that I have anything to do with being “Caucasian”, I am not because I lived in a place near by and I know closely what a patchwork of nations and nationalities Caucasian Ridge is.
If Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia and Israel join in Eurovisin and the EuroCup then surly they belong to Europe? Does anyone else agree?
What Armenia and Georgia and even Azerbaijan are not is Middle East. How can anyone consider a country belonging to Asia or Europe or Middle East by the simple “stan” part of the country’s name? It’s a matter of linguistics now.
you should ask yourself again that about Russia situation which is located mostly and primarily in the Asia and northern hemispheres so all these countries can be counted in both As for Cyprus is in Asia completely not in Europe geographically (not as you list) but considered european because of greek population and EU also all greek islands are located in Asia if you think this way (some of them are in the south of turkey anyway)
What a useless topic. All of you, get a life!
All turkey, Armenia Georgia and azerbaijan can be considered Europeans geographically,, but historically…only Armenia and Georgia r Europeans….but dont bother ur self….the EU recognizes all 4 europeans
i have a bell question test and for this i put china and russia because the catcus mountains does not extend to be one whole split continent so china would be part of eurasia…. im i right?
Ok to a stupid comments i read saying georgians and armenians r europeans and turkey is because armenians r white and turkey is not… There are alot of armenians in turkey and turks describe armenians as tanned.. they r darker version of turks just like the kurds… As for christianity, a belief doesnt make u european thats pathetic. Today 88% of turkey is white and 12% is non-caucasian, and 13% of kurdish ppl live in turkey so its a caucasian country.
As for whether or not they are in europe, the qustion is simple, the area which covers europe is debateble, some say europe ends after istanbul, turkey, others say it streches to caucasia. To my knowledge it ends in istanbul there for turkey is not in europe and is considered eurasia, transcontinent, as for armenia and georgia and azerbaijan they r in asia.
Btw to ppl consider armenians as white and azeris as non-white, azeris are mix races and have alot more blondes with blue eyes, dont forget theye r mixed ppl of turks n russians.
Turkey is not in Europe, it is considered Asia Minor. Armenia, and Georgia are not in CONTINENTAL EUROPE, but are part of Europe none the less, just like people from Iceland.
[Busse says:
Turkey is not in Europe, it is considered Asia Minor. Armenia, and Georgia are not in CONTINENTAL EUROPE, but are part of Europe none the less, just like people from Iceland.]
Busse that is by far the dumbest thing ive heard. Yes ur right turkey is not in europe, its not quiet asia minor, turkey is what we call transcontinent (eurasian). armenia is not part of europe just like the people in iceland because people in iceland is part of europe they r just not in EU, not being in EU doesnt mean they arent european. Armenia and georgia is not in europe not EU, they are in asia minor,
to al the armenians please be proud of what u are and stop trying to me something ur not, u guys r asian and its a great thing to be, dont try to be european they arent a superior race. Thank you
Armenia is in Asia, but we are Eurasian, or Europeans in Asia. I know it is confusing but by European I mean White, so actually it is all wrong, we are Caucasian people whose country is located in Asia. Ancient Armenia though expanded well into Europe and Asia.
Russia and Ukraine, at least a part of the country, falls into Asia. From the 3 countries you mentioned, only Georgia falls partially in Europe (a tiny part of it still lies in Europe but the rest is in Asia). All together these 3 countries are called the Caucases, because they are situated on the Northern-Southern Caucases, but only Georgia and Armenia have European/White origins. Azerbajanis are Turkic people, origins Mongols, Asian.
Georgie and Armenia do participate in European events, social-political groups, and they are set to join the EU some time in the future, as they should not because they are located in Asia, but because they are White peoples. In some countries people use ‘white’ interchangeably with ‘European’, but understand there are many European groups who do not live in Europe. With Georgia and Armenia, the EU is making an exception because they are White peoples who fall just outside the Europe map.
Kristine I dont know where you got all this information but you are incorrect. Armenians r caucasians yes, but so is iranians which falls under aryan race, being caucasian doesnt make you white. Armenians in turkey are mentioned as darker people compared to turks, it is hard to tel differences between armenian and a kurd, and kurd falls under aryan race. Armenians are not european white they are more middle eastern whites. As for azerbaijan you calling them mongols can be offensive, azerbaijan are ethnicaly whiter than armenians they r mixed with white turks and russians and smal portion has asian genes. So please if you havent searched it up dont make up stories.
As for armenia joining EU, its highly unlikely, they are not located in europe, their culture is asian and their economy is way below the european expectancy, the only thing they have in common is their religion.
Yes armenia, georgia and azerbaijan participate in european activities such as eurovision, but that doesnt make them european, because israel and morrocco is there aswel.
Armenia, azerbaijan and georgia are asian countries so please to all of you, stop pretending to be europeans and live proudly as asians.
I teach geography in high school in Taiwan, and all our textbooks catergorize these three nations as in Asia. But if Georgia joins EU in the future, I might change my view on this matter.
do you know?we give up the big wrong for the word of Caucasian.thisword must be said the Caukas,no Caucasian.because word into the Caucasian also has a word asian.its wrong.Caukas from the anicient,part of europe and accepted that.I m German and i m geographer.and i’v been in Baku.Azerbaijan is cultural and the geograpical part of the europe.azerbaijan is the most developed countrie and for the economy is the first in Caucas.and that is important we are the only match this city with the cities Milano,Roma,Viyana and thats.other countries in Caucas Tibilisi and Erevan:))just as carry out to sweepings box of the at.so go on the matter in europe or in asia.like a geographer I telling the boundaries of europe.listen me to carefully:))Ural mountains,river the emba,caspian sea,sunken the kuma-manich,sea of egey,sea of azov,black sea,the bosporus,sea of the marmara,mediterrian sea and the jabbalutariq..then little part of the armenia and georgia,and the fully azerbaijan in europe…lets dont telling about race.azeries always been the tall,brown hair and white skin.your talk that the peoples light brown skins hasnt in europe?then lets look the spain boys.they look likes arabian boys.light brown skin and black hair.some web pages those countries are looks like the asia.its too wrong and given upm the big mistakes.I know one that,Caucas in the Europe.dont forget about it…
quit trying to be apart of EUROPE!!
Geography is the only relevant criteria.
Europe’s boundary is the crest of the Caucasus Mountains, if you study a satellite photo of the South Caucasus, you will see Georgia has virtually no territory lying above the crest of those mountains. Georgia’s northern border with Russia runs along the Caucasus. Armenia is wholly to the south of the Caucasus Mountains. Azerbaijan however, has a good chunk of land rising north of the mountains along it’s north eastern border with Dagestan.
Georgia – Asian.
Armenia – Asian.
Azerbaijan – Eurasian.
Turkey – Eurasian.
if these 3 countries in asia then Skandinavia isnt in europe and t5he 20% of russia isnt in europe…thats smile but somewhere yhese countries as views part of aia..really smile…In kaukas i know only azerbaijan..and know one azerbaijan in europe and send your energy and gas,petrol to us.these there countries part of eastern europe.not talkling about that…whichs stupids thing that the kaukas not belong to europe??
i m from sweeden.we are love only azeries and azerbaijan..we ‘re going in azerbaijan every summer..and we learn a lot of informasion f4 this country..sure I agree fully with DAVID which stupids create this subject..all europeans know that the azerbaijan,georgia and armenia in eastern europe..u may ask my father..hahahahaha…azerbaijan we love uuuuu..and will going in this summer too
there are 4 muslim countries in europa;bosnia,kosova,turkey and azerbaijan…nobaday willnot be able say that ..muslims countries not belong to europe..thats stupidity..but these countries always democratic republics..
I’m sorry but there is some people on here who claims they are Armenians (e.g Jalil, Hye) but in fact they are Turks who hate to hear Armenia belongs to Europe and they dont..i assure you there is no Armenian who considers hes/her country part of the Middle East..,so nice try! geographically is in Euroasia however politically, culturally, historically and economically is European same goes to Georgia and Cyprus ..check worldatlas.com
nothing cannot know about geograpy like I..look.i m from serbia and should be say that.why anyones want to separate caucasus from europe.maybe persons which did this from asia..and i thing that they are interesring make it..and such illetaretes believe them..why they want to seperate caucasus from europe.clever europeans dont belive it..caucasus belong to europe.EUKA who u are asian?? stop seperate..
azerbaijan-europe
georgia-europe
armenia-europe
israel-asia(middle east)
turkey 5% in europe 95% in asia(middle east)
cyprus(asia)
russia-20% in europa 80 % in asia..
If Armenia is in Europe then Syria, Iraq and Iran are also in Europe.
Cyprus and Georgia are Asian baby..
..with the mongoloids!
I’m not sure about Azerbaijan, but Armenia and Georgia have European culture…Eastern European…These countries fall in the territory of Asia, but since their culture is pretty much European, we call them “Eastern Europe”. They are definitely not Asians!!!
Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan are definetly neither in the European or Asian category. The Caucasus region can hardly be described for geographical or cultural reasons as being European or Asian. Only because Armenians like Georgians belong to the Indo European family doesn’t mean they automatically belong in Europe, Iranians (who have cultural and historical links with Armenians) and Kurds are Indo Europeans too, but most would think they are in Asia. I think its time to accept Armenians, Georgians, and Azeri belong into a seprate category of their own, and geographers need to reass how they classify them. The Caucausus has been a bridge between Asia and Europe and remains until this day distinct in many respects to both Europe and Asia.
just because armenia has cultural,political,and religous belief similar to europe doewsn’t make it european.
many countries in the world have adopted the ways of europe,and armenia would actually be considered eurasian because of it’s location.
if they have certain charteristics that’s because there have always been races genetically considered caucasian,north africans,southwest asians also known as middle easterns,central asians,and south asians.i have a theory about caucasians and asian that even though they maybe different from each other they have some connection even the word cauc-”asian” is a clue there like neighbors.
Walter, Georgians are not Indo-Europeans.
The Georgian language is in the South Caucasian language family, which is not Indo-European.
Linguistics is irrelevant anyway. The Finns, Estonians, Hungarians, Basques, and Turks (Of Eastern Thrace) are all non Indo-European linguistically but all European geographically.
The question concerns one criteria and one criteria alone, Geography, and geographically Georgia and Armenia {And Cyprus} are entirely Asian.
While Azerbaijan is definately and unambigously Eurasian, Azerbaijan’s territory includes a sizable portion of the North Caucasus, along it’s north-eastern border with Dagestan.
I want to give a simple example of my rationale that geography is the ONLY criteria to be considered in determining whether something is or is not in Europe…
Australia and New Zealand have a majority European language, culture, ethnicity, religion and just about everything else. Now does this make Australia or New Zealand part of Europe? Of course not!
This is about geography, It doesn’t matter whether Armenians and Georgeans have everything or nothing in common with Europe.
ARMENIA is entirely south of the Caucasus mountains, it is miles away from them – ASIAN.
GEORGIA’s territory does not include any part of the North Caucacus foothills – ASIAN.
CYPRUS is off the coast of Asia Minor and the Levant, and nowhere near any part of Europe – ASIAN.
And that settles it!
According to National Geographic the Europe-Asia border is formed by the ural Mountains, the ural river (therefore western Kazakstan is in Europe) caspian sea, caucaus mountains and th eblack sea with its outlets the bosporus and the dardenelles. They include 2 very small northern regions of Georgia in Europe and northern Azerbaijan in Europe. So along with Turkey and Russia, there are 5 countries that are in both Europe and Asia
Hi, all! I am from Norway. And as I know Armenia is the richest and the most developed from those 3. I think we should count Georgia and Armenia… Azerbaijan being the poorest and alone muslim from those 3 must be cunted as Asia… Let’s mention the history… Armenia always was comunicating with Europe, especially with Rome Empire… But Azerbaijan appeared in not so early past… And had/has good relationships only with Muslim countries…
@ “Hye”
Get lost you Turk piece of garbage! Armenian culture has always been European based and so is the language. Azerbaijan and Turkey are not in Europe but Armenia is, based on language, origin of the people, and religion.
Hej,
I read all the comments on this forum, and actually as a global citizen started feeling bad. I don’t understand why it is a “shame” being asian. I have a lot of asian friends and they are absolutely nice. I noticed a lot of georgians and armenians are trying to show that they are better because they are “europeans” & chirstians. & they say that Azerbaidzan is a muslim country therefor it is not european.That is so stupid to say! Bosnia, albania, turkey are muslim countries as well, but they are still in Europe. I’m from sweden, and we have a lot of Erasmus students from Turkey. and erasmus program is only for Europeans. so I guess that means that european community has accepted them as europeans, althought not officialy made them a member of EU. the concept of Europe now is different from that of 50 years ago. Those 3 countries were in Soviets before, which itself was a Region. nowdays i think they are getting more and more involved with EU and europe in general. I don’t know how culturally they are close to europeans, but then there is no exact definition of “being european”. Swedes are so much different from Italians, and greeks, but still we all call ourselves europeans. I know that Georgia is more active in integration to EU, Azerbaidzan is the richest one with a lot better economoy than other 2 ( because of booming oil industry there). Dont know a lot about armenians, btu have met few. and someone commented here that they are blonde blue /green eyes. Definately No. but that does’t make them less ppl than blonde nordics. I really don’t udnerstand why that armenian made the comment trying to say that they have light skin light eyes – they are better. i think as a nation you should be more confident , and love ur country, not try to be like others.
I hope to visit Caucasia one day
ned ur an absalute idiot armenia is in europe and ther culture isnt even close too middle eastern ned has no idea wat hes talking about he should just go throw himself of a bridge dnt comment on this if u dnt knw wat ur talkingabout
Alskade Flicka..!I congrutulate u for a good comment..and someone wrote about that geograpıens gotta be appoınt that these 3 country belong ın euro or asıa.What ı say.they appoınt ıt.and result:EU says:we wıll take theses free countrıes ın EU In the frame of plan of partnership of the eastern europe.and these 3 country are abselutelly receıved to ınsıde of european boundarıes.at the same tame these countrıes,Moldova,Ukraına wıll joıned ın EU too.thıs decısıon accept after the meetıng of the europeans geographers.SO who can say that these countrıes are asıan?..they wıll Joıned ın EU as soon as possıble.and the next,my frıend Alıskade Frıkka saıd about european muslıms countrıes.do you know Azerbaıjan is accepted as the most modern islamite state ın all world and ın Europe.all europeans proud that,they have a such as partner.and geographıcal as you can see on the map,caucasus located above the turkey, west sıde of the Caspıan sea.we are pretty know that europe fınıshes ın the Caspıan sea.countrıes only paralel to caspıan sea beıng ıncluded to europe.for example;Anatolıa(Turkey) not to paralel,half ın Armenıa ıs not paralel.Iran ıs not paralel.wıth one word Caucasus belong to Europe.and thats not accidental that,they gonna joıned ın EU.OK.please nobady doesnt write commentary lie, without understanding, wıthout gettıng knowledge in the right of geography and countries..
Alskade Flicka!ı congrutulate u.ur comment ıs so rıght.ok.ı see that someones has saıd about geograpıcher gotta make a decısıon that,these 3 country are ın europe boundarıes or asıa.Guys they accept thıs decısıon already.EU says;we wıll take 6 country ın europe as soon as possıble;Ukraına,Moldova,Belarus,azerbaıjan,armenıa, and Georgıa.they joıned ın EU ın the frame of partnership of the eastern europe.and caucasus has called that south eastern europe.lıke BALKANS.alrıght who can say Caucasus ıs belong to asıa?.and the next.we are pretty know,Caspıan sea ın the euope bounarıes.cauvasus located above the turkey,and ıran.so ın thıs regıon only paralel countrıes to caspıan sea beıng ıncluded to europe.for example;Anatolıa(turkey) ıs ın asıa.half part of armenıa ıs ın asıa.and ıran ıs ın asıa.Ok.please doesnt wrıte comment,wıthout understandın,wıthout gettng knowledge about these countrıes.and my frıend Alskada wrote so true that ıts not matter ıf you muslım your not ın europe.half of spaın,Bosnıa,Kosova,turkey,azerbaijan are muslıms europeans countrıes.do you know azerbaijan accepted ıs the most modern muslım country all the world.we just proud that we have such as partner ın europe.ok..thanks for readıng from now.
Personally, i consider the political aspects, not the geological/geographical ones. In my view, North Africa should be included on most maps of europe, so should the island of cyprus, Anatolia and the Caucasus. I mean, weren’t Morocco, Tunisia, and Algeria part of France at one time, wasn’t Libya part of Italy and Egypt a mandate of Great Britain. Caucasia has been fought over by European and Asian powers alike since the dawn of time. Anatolia has been part of the Greek, Roman, and Byzantine Empire. And Cyprus has a population that is more than half population is Greek. Syria and Lebanon were French Mandates, too. Greenland is defiantly part of Europe, my ancestors probably landed there (Norwegians). The Eastern Boundary should be the edge of the Caspian Sea, Turkish, Armenia, Iraq/Iran boarder, Sub saharan Africa and the Israeli-Jordanian boarder! This debate is actually ridicules, Africa/Asia/Europe are one super-landmass called Afro-Eurasia.
do u know man?ıts not matter to be afro-euroasıan euroasıan.there are not such as sying in the world.just european,asıan,afrıcan,australıan,etc.so these subjects problems of geographer.and ı saıd thıs matter ın my last comment that,geographers made a decision.caucasus belong to europe and after thıs, regıon called south eastern europe.and besıdes,-amenıa,azerbaıjan,georgıa,moldovıa,belarus ukraına.these 6 country wıll joıned ın EU as soon as possıble.already european boundarıes ıs known everyone.
Arminia is in Asia geography wise.
There is nothing wrong with being Asian, I’m a complete Asian and European Mutt, but I sometimes wish i was from African decent because they don’t age that fast compare to Europeans, look at Tina Turner, what is she 70? Still looks young
It is just so sad people hardly pays attention to the comments. Its geography not language nor religion.
Plus there are 3 types of white, so who ever said Europeans are Caucasians is wrong, there are 3 types of white, Anglo Saxons most of Europe, Caucasians who live along the Caucasus Mountains, and Aryans who are from Iran. This is according to Anthropology. Unfortunately here in the US, through the years we always have stupid politicians who just categorize whites as Caucasians
We are all humans, one day these continents will look so different, there might not even be a Europe or Asia no more, it might get a new name or something.
Good luck to the student who took the geography class.
HAHA.
Some people really need to do there research before they go spouting nonsense.
Armenia. European country- speaks an Indo-European language, are all fairly caucasian, can be culturally linked to the Mediteranian. Noteably Greece!!
Georgia is a debate-able one for me. But never the less would and is considered European.
Azerbaijan is geographically in Asia. But draws culture from both continents. And is often considered to be European. Just because it’s 99% muslim doesn’t mean anything. They’re are muslim countries located in the EU.
I don’t see why people bother about this so much.
What’s the point in racially linking ourself to a continent.
What matters is inside.
WHERE WE ALL COME FROM THE SAME PEOPLE!
And has anyone considered the fact that even Central Asian countries are even considered European culturally.
Kazakhstan draws major significance from Europe. Over half of Uzbekistan is caucasian along with Kyrgystan and Tajikstan.
AND the Arayn people from Iran are often considered Caucasian. They also speak an Indo-European language.
And most Indian languages are Indo-European!
They’re are people in the North of India who look very racially European does that mean they’re shunned as Asian?
Or does the fact that they’re a sub continent already expel them?
It all comes down to this European/Asian nonsense.
A few thousand years ago- not a single person cared about continents.
They’re only geographical terms the ancient Greeks came up with to make everyone non-European apparently.
And they’ve excelled in that I can honestly say.
I have blood in The UK, Ireland, Nordic countries, Germany, France, Spain and the middle east.
And I just classify myself as Scottish.
My place of birth.
But all together I am Afro-Eurasian ;].
Why can’t we be happy with who we are instead of ethnically condeming each other all the time.
There is nothing wrong with being Asian nor Caucasian.
Were equals GET OVER YOURSELF
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Why are we now mentioning Cyprus?
It’s in the mediteranian sea- which is between North Africa and Europe.
Can’t you read maps?
I have visited all three of South Caucasian countries. Surely Georgia seems to be the most European of these states, and probably will join the EU earliest. Armenia and Azerbaijan should also be considered as European countries, due to geographic placement and culture. Although Azerbaijan is officially a muslim state, most of the people do not practise any religion and the lifestyle is european. All 3 states are members of the European Council, and EU Eastern Partnership programme.
In fact Armenians and Azerbaijanis look very similar (a bit darker than Greeks and Turks), which is a result of genetic mixture over the centuries of close neighborhood.Georgians have lighter skin, and some are blond with blue eyes.
haaahaha we try to gather racıalızm..but someones trıes to do ıt always..ı dnt know..when does mr.NIKO goın ın thıs regıon and where saw thıs people..please stop racıalısm..thats how turks and greeks are whıte skıns then these people..what ıs ıt mean..then spaıns belong ın asıa cause they lıght brown skıns too…we wıll fıght such as donkey guys..and these countrıes also belong ın europe..ı dont say that…ıts say EU..
YA YULIYA.HI AM REALLY KNOW THESE COUNTRIES SO CLOSE.CAUSE AM RUSSIAN.YEAH.AND I KNOW THEY RACE,THEY
SITUATION,THEY CASE.GEORGIANS HALF AN IN EUROPA.THEIR WESTERN SIDE BELONG IN EUROPA.AND THEY WERY WEAK COUNTRY.
COUNTRY FOR THEIR ARMY.ARMENIANS JUST LOOK LIKES UNDER OUR OFFICE BUT THEY NOT IN EUROPA.THEY
SOUTH-EASTERN NEIGHBOR TO TURKEY.SO IT MEANS THAT THEY IN ASIA.AND ABOUT AZERBAIJAN GUYS I WANNA TALK.OH MY GODD
THEY REALLY MAKE ME CRAZY.OK.AM GOT AWAY FROM THE SUBJECT.ONLY AZERBAIJAN COMPLETELY LOCATE IN EUROPA AND THEY
VERY RAPIDLY INTEGRATE IN EU.AND THATS TRUE THESE COUNTRIES WILL JOINED IN EU WITH COUNTRIES UKRAINE,MOLDOVA AND BELARUS.
AND THIS REGION CALLED EASTERN EUROPE ALTHOUGHT HALF PART IN GEORGIA BELONG IN ASIA AND ARMENIA COMPLETELY IN ASIA..
CAUCASUS:
ARMENIA-ASIA(COMPLETELY)
AZERBAIJAN-EUROPA(COMPLETELY)
GEORGIvA-EUROASIA(CAUSE HALF AN IN ASIA)
SOMEONES COULDNT ACCEPTANCE THAT WE ARE EUROPEANS..WHHHYYY???ALL ORGANIZATIONS ACCEPT IT BUT SOMEONES STILL COULDNT…ITS POSSIBLE THAT LITTLE PART OF TURKEY AND RUSSIA IN EUROPA..BUT CAUCASUS BELONG IN EUROPA COMPLETELY.NOW WHY SOMEONES TRY TO CHANGE IT????
I was really surprised when I read the question. I am from Germany and in my opinion Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan clearly belong to Asia. I was taught this at school. Besides, all the maps and encyclopaedias I have at home say so too. The culture of these countries does not matter. It is just about geography.
Please read this Wikipedia entry:
The Kuma-Manych Depression is a geological depression in southwestern Russia that separates the Russian Plain (north) from the Fore-Caucasus (south). It is often regarded as the natural boundary between Europe and Asia. It was once officially declared as the boundary by the Russian Czar in 1730 after the geographical works by Philip Johan von Strahlenberg.
Hey everybody listen I am Georgian! and I know the true story! First of all who cares what you have learned at school??!! I am Georgian and therefore I am European!!! I dont know about Armenians and Azerbaijan and Turkey but Georgia is culturally European. I am sorry I have to tell you this but Geographically Europe does not exists because Eurasia is one continent. Europe does only exists culturally and therefore culturally Georgia is part of Europe. In history Europe was divided from Asia because of the variety in culture and religion.And for the information Georgia and Armenia were the first Christian Countries in the World.Georgia was always part of Europe but when the Soviet Union was created people divided Eurasia in three parts: these were Asia, Europe and the Soviet Union which was too big to be included in any of them. After the collapse people forgot about Georgia and that is why Georgia is the forgotten Europe. In my mind Turkey and Azerbaijan are not culturally part of Europe. Armenia although I guess is neither part of Europe nor Asia it is part of the Middle East which in my mind is a different cultural region which is really not Asia too.
lets thought about that;we’re know that these countrıes locate between europe and asıa..and everyone takes ıt,got ıt.ok..so.gotta be theır choıce whıch sıde,whıch contınent they wanna ıntegrate.and ıt seems that these countrıes want to be part of europe.and europe gave thıs choıse to these countrıes.Therefore they wıll joıned ın EU as soon as possıble.and we know that cannot enter the EU,whıch countrıes doesnt belong ın europe geographıcally..then we gotta accept ıt.
Azerbaijan won’t join Europe for sure, Europe isn’t even leting turkey join. Armenia is the most similar to Europe, religon wise, cultural wise, and Armenian is considered an Indo European lanauage. I don’t think any country will have a problem leting Armenia join Europe as for Azerbaijan and Turkey, they don’t have much of a chance. Armenia is the most likely to join, then Georgia, then turkey(very-very little chance), then Azerbaijan(no chance).
This is a STUPID argument.
You guys need to reread the question:
“Georgia, Armenia, and Azerbaijan in Asia or Europe?”
The question is asking if the countries are in ASIA or EUROPE.
If you guys are saying these countries are European simply because of its inhabitants, then you guys are STUPID!
I’m from Hawaii and over half the population here is ASIAN. Does this mean we’re part of ASIA? NO! We’re part of AMERICA.
GEOGRAPHICALLY SPEAKING, Georgia, Armenia, and Azerbaijan are part of ASIA!
PROBLEM SOLVED FRIENDS! =)
Are there any doubts about Australian, African or American boundaries? Definitely not! -About Europe and Asia? Yes! It’s because that Eurasia is one continent and boundaries between Europe and Asia have always been controversial, because the division have been based on cultural differences.
I was born in Georgia, and even in soviet times we, Georgians, always considered the country European. The Christianity in this country has made more ties with Europe than with Asia. Moreover, during its entire history, Georgia fought against Muslim empires from Asia, so it is natural to be tied with Europeans.
So, for me Georgia is naturally European despite what different world atlases and websites feature. And it is also true that many of them nowadays consider Georgia as a European country.